Welcome to Back from the Abyss. I'm Dr. Craig Hecock.

We do three types of episodes on Back from the Abyss. Personal stories, my monologues, and musings,

and finally interviews with experts who offer something particularly interesting to me, and I hope to all of you.

Today's episode falls into the expert category, and can I say wow to this episode.

My guest is Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani, an internist and author of the book Sick Enough,

a guide to the medical complications of eating disorders.

Dr. G is a nationally recognized expert on eating disorders and the founder of the Gaudiani

clinic in Denver.

I learned a ton from Dr. G.

And I've been really looking forward to sharing this with all of you.

This is a wide-ranging discussion that I think stretches far beyond eating disorders and

gets to the heart of some of our most sensitive cultural biases and beliefs.

I'm really delighted to be here in Denver at the Gaudiani Clinic with Dr. G., Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani.

Thanks for having me down.

I'm so happy to have you here.

I'm so glad to know you.

Now that I know you, we're going to be in touch.

Now we're about you, yeah.

I heard you on the psychiatry and psychotherapy podcast, and I just said, oh, my gosh, this is one of the most interesting episodes that Dave's ever had. And at one point, you said you were in Denver. I said, yes. Because unlike most podcasts, you know, which record distance on Zoom, you know, as listeners know, I do all these in person. So contacted you and threw the stuff

in the Subaru Outback and drove down here. And it's, yeah, it's wonderful to be here. Amazing. I love this

format. I haven't done it before, but it's really, really nice because I sort of feel like I'm just

having lunch with a friend, but we have microphones and headphones. I know. That's the special sauce. Yeah.

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