Hello and welcome to the Midweek edition of the For The Many podcast with me Ian Dale.

And me Jackie Smith.

Now, we had a little chat before we started doing this and you're feeling a bit down,

aren't you?

I'm not as cheery as I have been Ian, be honest with you and I'm sort of I will I will buck up

everybody. I'm not going to be a misery during the course of the podcast. But you do sort of

realise that it's such a big change to your life, although I'm still doing a lot of work,

you know, not going out of the

house, having the sort of general level of anxiety that everybody's carrying at the moment,

it just, you know, it gets you down a bit, doesn't it on occasions? I had to take a little break

before we recorded this podcast, have a cheese bagel and watch a bit of Belgravia.

Oh, really? No, I just think that's even slower than Downton Abbey. No wonder you get depressed.

It's brilliant, though.

Is it?

No, it's perked me up, yeah. Oh, illegitimate children, people dying, evil aristocrats. I mean,

what's not to like? It's brilliant. Well, I've started watching the English game, which is also

written by Julian Fellows, but there is, I think there's a bit more to that, I have to say. But it is

quite a phenomenon now, I think people having to get used to this,

either living on their own or just the lack of routine or their normal routine has disappeared out the window.

Last night on my OBC show, we had Emma Kenny on the psychotherapist.

I mean, we had some heartbreaking calls on.

And also from people who had, they either had lost psychotherapist. I mean, we had some heartbreaking calls on and also from people who had,

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