Training camps have opened. The September surprise injuries are in the rear view mirror and is that time of year.

Sadly these lines keep coming out early and earlier. I made a pointed attempt to not look at any of them until I really started going through this exercise because I wanted my predictions to be unaffected by the preseason lines.

We're going to do the Eastern Conference today and I'm getting these lines from the Westgate Superbook as of the most recent ones I could find were on the Action Network as of about a week ago.

So Danny and I generally just pick an over-under than we do our best best at the end that'll be in the next podcast after we do the West.

Have I won this every year by the way? Is that a nice introduction for you?

No, I think let's see. I think that you have won. You definitely want it more often than I have. I don't know if you've won it.

Well, I guess winning it because when we actually change the criteria, but you mean like picking the most correct of the 30.

Yes. I think you've won that. I think I've won best bets a couple of times.

I think you've won best bets nearly every time actually.

That could be true.

But so I'm much better at my worst bets than you are though.

Yeah, that is also true.

Okay, let's get started here with the Atlanta Hawks.

Oh, 36, which is way higher than I thought it would be.

When I had Brad Relland on, he was referencing it being around 34.

So I guess that's been fed up or he was looking somewhere else.

But I got a real hard under on this because I have a number of concerns about the Hawks,

which I detailed on that pod with Brad.

So you and I haven't talked about the Hawks.

Why don't you give your pick and go first here or go first with your explanation?

Well, the Hawks won 29 games last year using cleaning the glasses filters.

So they basically what they do is they turn point differential filtering out garbage time

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