Easing the lockdown: the politics versus the science
All Out Politics
Sky News
4.2 • 156 Ratings
🗓️ 12 June 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
An uncomfortable dilemma for the Prime Minister as lockdown measures are gradually eased but not enough for all pupils to return to school.
And what about the two-metre social distancing rule? No sign of movement on that despite the impact it will could have on the economy.
Joining Adam this week are the founder and headteacher of Michaela Community School in north west London Katharine Birbalsingh, the science columnist at UnHerd Tom Chivers and Sky's political correspondent Kate McCann
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| 0:45.9 | Hello, welcome to the All-Out Politics podcast from Sky News. I'm Adam Bolton. And joining me at the start |
| 0:52.5 | is Sky News political correspondent Kate McCann and Tom Chivers, |
| 0:57.0 | who's a science columnist for the unheard website. This week we're going to talk about the tension |
| 1:03.8 | between what we've come to know as the science, the scientific advice and political decision-making |
| 1:10.1 | as the government seeks to deal with coronavirus |
| 1:14.1 | and, if possible, lifting the lockdown. |
| 1:21.5 | To a certain extent, in recent days, we've seen some of the government's advisors eating a little bit of humble pie about some of the directions we've seen some of the government's advisers eating a little bit of humble |
| 1:29.8 | pie about some of the directions we've been given. |
| 1:32.0 | The two meters is not a rule. It is not a scientific rule. It is a risk-based assessment |
| 1:38.3 | on when risk reduces. And the risks are associated with distance. So risk falls after two metres, time, what mitigating |
| 1:47.4 | factors you can put in place, which include things like whether you're sitting side by side, |
| 1:52.1 | back to back, or face-to-face, whether you've got face coverings, whether there's ventilation |
| 1:57.1 | and other measures, and the absolute risk, i.e. the number of people |
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