Earth Wisdom in a Modern World
Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins
Dr. Amy Robbins
4.8 • 588 Ratings
🗓️ 2 September 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of "Life, Death, and the Space Between," I chat with Jonathan Hammond, a shamanic practitioner and author of "The Shaman's Mind: Huna Wisdom to Change Your Life." We delve into shamanism, healing, and the link between nature and human psychology. Jonathan shares his journey from traditional education to shamanism, highlighting the need to reconnect with nature for healing. We discuss the ego, the power of intention, and the Hawaiian concept of "ho'oponopono" for addressing unconscious patterns. The episode encourages embracing our authentic selves and fostering loving relationships.
Intro (00:00:00)
Amy introduces the episode
Background (00:01:37)
Educational journey and transition into shamanism
Bridging Psychological and Spiritual Practices (00:06:03)
Amy discusses her journey through therapy and spirituality
Defining Shamanism (00:08:14)
Shamanism as a relationship with nature and its importance in healing.
Cultural Context of Shamanism (00:10:52)
Difference between being a shaman and a shamanic practitioner
Influence of Freud and Jung (00:12:11)
Hawaiian shamanism and psychological theories
Understanding Spirit and Soul (00:15:09)
Nature of spirit, soul, and their roles in personal healing and growth.
Principles of Huna (00:20:02)
The seven principles of Huna
Nature's Role in Healing (00:22:11)
Amy's experience with nature
The Nature of Reality (00:26:19)
Discussion on how our beliefs shape our reality and connection to everything.
Lahaina Fires and Indigenous Rights (00:27:42)
Reflection on the Lahaina fires
Principle of Aloha (00:37:29)
Explanation of the Hawaiian concept of Aloha as love and sharing life energy.
Ho'oponopono Explained (00:43:10)
Overview of Ho'oponopono
Spiritual Bypassing (00:49:52)
Critique of contemporary spirituality and the importance of feeling emotions.
Ecstatic Experiences vs. Grounded Living (00:52:02)
Balancing ecstatic spiritual experiences
Understanding Self and Contribution (00:53:42)
Exploration of owning one's gifts and contributions to the collective.
Jonathan's Work and Offerings (00:54:35)
Overview of Jonathan's books
Challenges of In-Person Retreats (00:55:42)
Organizing retreats.
Gratitude and Reflection (00:56:37)
Closing remarks expressing appreciation for the conversation's timing and insights.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to life, death, and the space between. |
| 0:03.7 | I get a lot of pitches that come across my desk. |
| 0:06.6 | And I'm always trying, do people even say that anymore, desk? |
| 0:09.6 | But it sounds about right. |
| 0:11.2 | And I always try to bring you someone new, something you've never heard before, |
| 0:15.2 | something I've never talked about before. |
| 0:16.9 | And when I craft my questions, I'm always trying to think about how I can bring you a new |
| 0:21.6 | perspective on something, even if I have talked about it before. But this week's episode with |
| 0:26.5 | Jonathan Hammond was super interesting to me because he is a shaman. And he went to Harvard University |
| 0:34.0 | and my alma mater at the University of Michigan, and he's a shamanic practitioner, |
| 0:38.9 | I was very curious what that word means because the word shaman seems to get thrown around a lot |
| 0:45.0 | lately and lots of people are calling themselves shaman. And I wanted to understand the nature |
| 0:50.5 | of that word and what a practicing shaman actually looks like and what they do. And we ended up |
| 0:56.9 | having a beautiful, really, really long, deep discussion about different healing modalities, what it |
| 1:03.6 | means to be a shaman, what it means to be a spiritual counselor, and how he teaches all of these |
| 1:09.8 | different aspects of his practice in life. |
| 1:13.5 | So I really encourage you to listen. |
| 1:16.0 | It was a really, really heartfelt, beautiful, beautiful conversation between the two of us. |
| 1:21.9 | And I'm excited to share it with you all today. |
| 1:24.2 | So with that, here's Jonathan Hammond. |
| 1:36.3 | Welcome, Jonathan to life, death, and the space between. |
| 1:46.9 | It's so great to be here. Thank you, Amy. I'm always excited to be in conversation with a fellow Wolverine. So we are going to have a great conversation, I am sure. So I want to start with your book, The Shaman's Mind, Huna, is that how you say it, |
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