Hello, welcome to the Apple Cider podcast. I'm William Gallagher. Our sponsor this week is Fast Going Trees. And as ever, I am joined by Wesley Hilliard. Now, Wes, Apple was having quite a bad week, really, wasn't it, with judgments against it, rulings, potential criminal proceedings even.

But then the money came through. The earnings report came through. And it was all very good news.

So, all the stuff about tariffs and things, can we just forget that? Apple's fine and doing brilliantly.

Well, I mean, as always, this is the calm before the storm. We'll see how it goes. I mean,

Apple having a good quarterly earnings call, especially for the first quarter where there was just so many devices released.

And there was this tension already building over,

should we buy ahead of time, should we get ahead of these potential tariffs that had

been promised this entire campaign?

People obviously got in before we even saw the April tariffs and started buying, you know,

iPhones and Macs just in case, before we even knew the April tariffs and started buying, you know, iPhones and Macs just in case

before we even knew the extent of what they were going to be. So, yeah, it was a positive quarter.

It makes sense, but I mean, who knows what next quarter is going to be like. That's the one to look for.

But, hey, I mean, at least they got while the getting was good right so

as we said last week my buying of a mac studio helped tip them over into into the red no wait into

the black i get those mixed up which may explain a lot about my finances really okay apple will

survive and survive well what about this business business, though, of Epic Games?

Because we've both written quite a lot about this. I've examined the specifics of what Apple must now

immediately do on the App Store to comply with the rulings. But you were therefore what was going on

as it was breaking as the announcements came out and

as there were responses to it I'm hearing people saying that this is a gigantic thing

another saying it's overplayed how do you feel about well do you want to explain first what

the new events are and who's winning and who's losing well Well, first, I did want to mention we have Apple

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