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You don't have to be another face in the crowd. Well, hi folks, this is Jack Spirica with the Survival Podcast.

Welcome to an episode of Friday Flashbacks.

After 15 years and hundreds of interview shows, we decided to run them as flashbacks every Friday.

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Now let's get into today's Friday Flashback.

And today we're flashing back to October 19th, 2011.

This was originally episode 766 with Jacob Lund Fisker from early retirement extreme.

The way this interview happened is I found this guy's book.

I think one of you actually recommended it to me, and I read it.

I thought, this would be a fantastic interview. It ended up being the interview, honestly the episode that in 16 and a half years now,

I did the most post-production work on in my life. I learned that somebody being a great author

and being really smart doesn't necessarily mean they'll make a great interview.

In the end, though, this interview ended up being really great.

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