Hello, everybody, and welcome the PHAY Eagles podcast.

I'm a toasty Thursday.

O'Wolf, E.J. Smith.

We are live from the Xfinity Studio, and we are presented by Ashley and Bet365.

Two positions today, DJ Safety and Linebacker, And we're going to have a little help. Yeah. The great Devin Jackson of the Inquirer is going to join us. We'll get to him in just a couple minutes. How you doing? I'm doing well. Yeah, it's warm out. I think yesterday was warmer. It was muggy yesterday. But enjoying the weather. Went for a nice walk with my dogs and my wife. The dags. This is probably the wrong word to do that. Yeah, I had a nice walk. Wait, what did you say? The dags. The dags? I don't like that one. I'm not a fan. But yeah, I'm excited for the show. I'm going to get this. I was walking my wife on a leash like you did.

I didn't imply that at all.

I said I was walking with my wife and my dogs.

Yeah.

She was definitely not on a leash.

Yeah, I will get this out of the way now.

Safeties and linebackers are tougher eval for me. You know. It's funny, I talked to my dad on the way in

today, like about how I struggle to watch tape on safeties, because it's not a position that you

can like speed run, like some of these other positions. You can see movement skills. It is

really about understanding their use case, understanding. I mean, how they move is part of it,

but are they productive?

How much do they know ball?

Yeah, are their instincts good?

Like, you have to watch a lot to really get a complete picture of a player at both of these

spots.

So I'll be more deferential to Fran's rankings and the consensus big board on this show than usual.

But I think it'll be a fun conversation. And I want to warn you about one other thing here.

I think I'm going to be, you're going to have to talk me out of some irrational things today, I think.

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