Dale, Kat, welcome to the Vile Fowl. Yeah, it's good to be here. We're, we're wrapped.

Are you okay?

We're okay.

I don't know what to do with my hands.

I know.

I'm like,

what do I do with my body?

Do you need to breathe?

Yeah, no, we're good.

Let's get into it, man. So you guys are together. We are. Honestly, I wasn't sure how I was going to play out. Yeah. You know? Are you bummed that you didn't leave with a ring?

Are you like, you know what?

Girl, no.

Then they're done that.

I'm good.

No.

I'm totally fine without a ring.

I've already done that.

The way the show was formatting. Are you like, you know what? Girl, no. Then they're done that. I'm good. No. I'm totally fine without ring.

I've already done that. The way the show was formatted, obviously different, like the new format. Like, I almost like forgot about the engagement element. Yeah. I feel like it made the engagements less like, you're like, oh, okay. It was like, yeah, the money. I guess, but like it was like the money.

I think they were more focused on like truly like building relationships. If you see even though engagements were the forefront of previous seasons, we haven't really worked out that well. So like whatever they're doing this time around, I think worked a little bit better because we're together. Yeah. I also think like, you know, people focused on the money aspect, but when you're actually

on the show, granted, some of that's in the back of your mind.

But it wasn't a topic of conversation with any of us.

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