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Let's talk about caring and not caring.

Like everything else in this world, there's a shallow meaning and a deep meaning.

A shallow meaning is defined by ego.

The deep meaning is defined by deep transcendence, deep spirituality.

If somebody says, I don't care about anything, that's not very spiritual. Notice how I said it. I don't care. I don't care about anything that's not very spiritual notice how I said it

I don't care I don't care of anything

I don't care what you think

I don't care if you like me

you know what that means they care very much

if you like them

and they have suppressed the part of themselves

that can't handle

that you might not like them

or that this might not happen,

et cetera, et cetera. You know that. And that's how this world uses, I don't care. And then they say,

not caring is callous, it's cold, it's impersonal, it's non-social, antisocial, it's a terrible

thing. And people don't care about each other. People don't care.

That's one way. We'll talk more about that.

The other way is you've gone so deep within yourself,

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