E828 | Mark Sayers on Living Between Eras

Wild at Heart

Christianity, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

If you're feeling like this world is an increasingly unstable place, you're not alone...or crazy. During moments of intense global transition and shaking, it's helpful to have an accessible voice explain the historical and cultural forces at work from a Christian worldview. In this two-part series, Mark Sayers joins John and Blaine Eldredge for a fascinating, globe-spanning conversation. In Part 1, he explains how we're actually living between two eras—what he refers to as the 'gray zone'— and the ambiguity, challenges, and opportunities of such times.

Show Notes: Mark Sayers' website is marksayers.co. Listen to his Rebuilders podcast at rebuilders.co/podcast.

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0:00.0	If you've been feeling like the world is an unstable place, you're not crazy.
0:05.0	If you've been feeling like it's a more competitive place, more antagonistic place, a less idealistic place, you're not crazy.
0:15.0	Like, yeah, no, that's all going on.
0:18.0	And if, you know, we are in a time of enormous transition in the world.
0:28.0	Enormous transition.
0:29.8	We're not going back to 1965 America.
0:34.0	And then what that meant for the world.
0:36.1	We're not.
0:38.9	It's impossible.
0:40.3	No clock ever resets.
0:42.1	You know, you just, God never does that.
0:45.2	Hey, everybody.
0:46.1	Welcome back to the Wild at Heart podcast.
0:49.2	My son, Blaine, with me here this week
0:51.3	because we have someone else that we really want to introduce you to,
0:58.7	someone's podcast that we really want to introduce you to. And Mark Sares, who's a pastor down in
1:07.6	Melbourne, Australia, author, speaker, teacher guy has a podcast that you awakened
1:15.9	me to about a year ago.
1:18.3	Yeah, sometime last year.
1:19.7	It's called Rebuilders.
1:21.0	Yeah, Rebuilders podcast.
1:22.3	We're going to put all this in the notes because once you hear this guy, you're going to
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