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Kuper Island

E7: Hurt People Hurt People

Kuper Island

CBC

True Crime

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The children who attended Kuper Island Residential School faced a terrible aftermath trying to process what happened. The abuse they suffered there often coloured their relationships with family and community — with devastating results. Meanwhile, the team learns one of the perpetrators from the school spent his later years being taken care of in relative comfort — all paid for by the Oblates. They demand to know why. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/kuper-island-transcripts-listen-1.6622551

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0:00.0

In late 2007, the remains of a young woman from the Kaska Nation were discovered in the Yukon woods.

0:08.0

I always think about, I want to know what really happened.

0:12.0

So I travel north to try to understand what happened and who was involved.

0:18.0

It's a pretty big risk to come forward with the information that I have.

0:22.0

I'm David Rijon, is Someone Know Something, season 8.

0:26.0

The Angel Carlic case.

0:28.0

Available Now.

0:30.0

This is a CBC podcast.

0:35.0

Before we start, this is a podcast about Canada's Indian residential schools

0:39.0

and it contains descriptions of sexual violence, suicide, and abuse.

0:44.0

If you need support, you can find information about where to turn for help at

0:47.8

C.C.C.A. slash Keeper Island. When James Charlie was a young man, he didn't tell anyone about the abuse he'd suffered at residential school.

1:00.0

He had two ways of numbing his deep pain, boozing and fighting.

1:07.0

That was my way of coping with all the hurt and the anger I had in me, I was from being a man, not being a man, not being a father, not being a husband, not being a brother those were my crutch eh now it's getting to have more

1:29.8

my own James it's a nice place to be. I saw a lot of my temper. My tongue is in the sharpest

1:38.4

used to be, but it's still sharp.

1:42.0

What I went to, the hardest part, to me to you was my healing journeys. The harm I afflicted on my wife, the harm I afflicted on my boys, the harm I inflicted on my grandchildren.

1:59.0

There was two sides side and a happy side and a happy side and my brothers and I, and my mom, we were all

2:17.0

walk on an eggshells because we never wanted to upset him and see that angry side.

2:25.0

That's Fergie Charlie, James's youngest son.

2:29.0

He's in his 40s and he's a keeper of Hulkminum songs and traditions and language.

2:33.8

He gives off a quiet vibe of cultural strength,

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