What is going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Wow Files. I hope you all had a

very wonderful Thanksgiving and holidays. I'm going to start about this episode, Kelsey Dara.

I met Kelsey not too long ago. We were an acting class together and she was like, I got a podcast

and I was like, I got a podcast and we talked about podcasts and then I was on her as you guys

to go check it out. And then she told me how she's in an open relationship with her boyfriend.

And I was like, oh my god, we've been like, we're shall obsessed with open relationships. I'm

super. No, I'm not. I'm curious. You're curious about it. Is it am I? We we talk about it a lot.

It's a fascinating thing. Are you not? I just could never ever ever do it. And it's fascinating.

And so I'm like, you have to come on. It comes up more often than not. I learned a lot. It's

just fascinating. And I think as society goes, relationships are becoming more and more

untraditional. And it's a fun insight into people who choose to have an untraditional relationship.

Have you been paying attention to this peloton commercial thing that went viral?

Yeah, it's really funny. It's fascinating. I don't know the job on them because

I'm kind of fascinated by the whole thing as again, as a small business owner who is coming up with

marketing and talking to people. It was like, it was fascinating because I'm sure peloton is

certainly a much larger business than natural habits. And they probably spend more. They had a

whole marketing team that came up with this. They shot it. They hired actors. And then all of a sudden

just viral and a lot of negative criticism. At the same time, it's getting a ton of traction.

Exactly. And it's like press is good for us.

Yeah, I don't. But like, I watched it after I heard there was a, and I like, I get

where the criticism's coming from, but also like, like clearly they weren't trying to, you know what I'm

saying? They weren't trying to what? Well, this whole idea, it's like, don't be the asshole who's

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