Is that Vader's own stand? Let's go.

This is Prince of Day School.

And we're off!

Ho, ho, ho!

Brothers, sisters, siblings, welcome to Penn Sunday School, starring Pendulate!

My name is Mike Lino, Matt, Red Ridge, Penn and I are brought Catholic from our separate homes in Las Vegas.

This week we have the amazing author of Human Smoke and Mezzanine and other great books.

On past episodes you've heard Penn Ray about his writing, we've tricked him into talking with us here today.

Very Nicholson Fakers on today's episode.

Here is Peter Love, Mr. Penn Gillette!

Nicholson, welcome, I said before we were rolling that you were my favorite author,

who used to fill me with joy and now just bum my shit.

And you are still my favorite author.

You know, one of the things that's so fabulous about being young and listening to music is that when somebody puts out an album that you would never buy,

but you're a fan, like you know, Bob Dylan puts out Nashville Skyline and you go, I don't like country music, but it's Bob Dylan.

And I've really lost that in music, but I have it with you.

You know, I fell madly head over heels in love with you, with the Mezzanine and Room Temperature and you and I, and checkpoint and vox and all of that.

And when you started writing more of the nonfiction stuff that was more history and more of that, I would never have read that, never in a million years.

But I had fallen so deeply in love with your writing that I went along with you.

And it's a kind of expansion of my thinking that I really have sincerely not seen since Bob Dylan.

And I also think because we're the same age, you know, and we talked about this.

We had lunch once. We talked about this in the Mezzanine that the topical references, like when you're reading Moby Dick.

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