E50 The Problem With Men with Liz Plank

The Viall Files

Nick Viall

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🗓️ 9 October 2019

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Today we have author and Vox Media Host Liz Plank in the studio to talk about idealized masculinity. But first, Nick weighs in on the Raven/Rachel controversy. Liz shares why she doesn’t like the term toxic masculinity, she discusses her research on male intimacy, and Nick and Liz discuss not fitting into gender norms.

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0:00.0	What is up everybody? Welcome to the Survival Files. I'm just trying to bring a little
0:18.9	spice to my intros. How's everyone doing? That's you listeners, I'm asking. I hope everyone's
0:25.8	in their car on their podcast or their headphones. I'm great, Nick. Another great episode for you.
0:31.5	I'm equally excited about this. One last week we had a fun episode with our friend Sylvie
0:37.7	talking about attachment styles. We actually talked a little bit about that again today with
0:42.9	our guest Liz Plank. Liz is great. She has a new book out called For the Love of Men. I love
0:47.9	this because I say this at the end of our episode. You know, this is really why I started
0:52.0	this podcast and it's kind of bringing up just kind of alternative ways of thinking. So much of
0:58.7	what we do or how we do things has been because we've always done it a certain way over the
1:03.9	history of our time and understanding all these different things is fascinating and talking about
1:09.0	we're in interesting times trying to be progressive as possible, trying to have equality amongst
1:15.2	all different types of people in traditional minorities, but then understanding how it affects
1:21.0	the counterbalance of men and how we interact with things. So talk a lot about masculinity where
1:26.9	that comes from. Liz has a lot of interesting insights. She studied a lot about it and a lot of
1:30.6	research and we've gotten into that. So it's a lot of fun. I think you will enjoy it.
1:35.0	Yeah, she's a badass for sure. It's really great. You know, it's funny. I was looking online that
1:42.7	you commented. So the thing with Raven and Rachel, I thought was interesting. It seemed to be in
1:48.1	a big fight. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I saw something about Colton asked if she doesn't. If she just
1:54.5	doesn't like everyone. And I wrote, I'm pretty sure she likes me. So tell me what's what your
1:59.4	opinion is. I don't really have necessarily opinion. It seems like you do. I don't really, I don't
2:03.8	really know what I remember last time I saw Rachel. You mentioned that they were. You don't know
2:08.9	what it is. I don't know. She didn't tell you. No. I mean, why would she tell me? I thought,
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