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And That's Why We Drink

E488 The Esophagus Woes and a Hatchet Granny

And That's Why We Drink

Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz | Para Pods

True Crime, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.724.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2026

⏱️ 132 minutes

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It’s Episode 488 and no one is appreciating Chattanooga Choo Choo like we are. Today Em covers the haunted Hotel Holly in Michigan and its ghost dog named Leona! Then Christine covers serial killer Gerard Schaefer which has us communally sighing in frustration. And will we ever be able to make MacGALver happen? …and that’s why we drink!**One quick note! Next week there will be no main episode on Sunday 7/5 but we will return again on 7/12/2026!**Want to listen ad-free? Join our Certified Yapper tier for $10/month on Patreon! Ad-free episodes starting at E469 at: http://patreon.com/ATWWDPodcast !Catch our bonus Yappy Hour intermissions on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3L28lDw or subscribe on Patreon!___________________Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with promo code DRINK.Get 50% off your first box plus free shipping for a year at https://tryfirstleaf.com/DRINK .Go to https://zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order.Try ZipRecruiter for free at https://ziprecruiter.com/drink to find enthusiastic, qualified candidates fast.If you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, go to https://learn.nocd.com/ATTWD and book a free call with their team to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:46.7

to my medications underneath the supervision of a professional, medical professional,

0:52.6

but I will say that I've noticed some more of my OCD

0:55.3

tendencies kind of rearing their heads, but I do feel much more equipped now to handle them

1:00.3

because of no CD and because of our longstanding special friendship, as I call it.

1:05.4

I just love the app.

1:06.6

I love no CD.

1:07.7

I just love that there are other people who like get me now and it feels like I'm not alone in the world. I just love it. Okay. So that's all I'm going to say. I'm going to stop talking now. Well, not every therapist understands OCD or is qualified to treat it effectively, which can make it difficult to find the right help. But when you find the right help like Christine, then you have a very special friendship. And OCD is highly treatable with a specialized type of therapy called ERP or exposure

1:29.9

and response prevention.

1:31.4

And with no CD, you can do live virtual ERP therapy with licensed therapists who specialize in OCD.

1:35.6

No CD therapists are highly trained.

1:37.5

So they really understand OCD and won't judge you no matter what your thoughts are about.

1:41.1

NoCD therapy is covered by insurance for over 155 million Americans. So unfortunately for you, Christine, you're not their only special friend. Do you know what I'm I do? I want to be, I want this to be the more the merrier, the most open relationship we can all have because OCD deserves to be talked about people. Okay. Don't hide. If you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, please don't wait to get help. Go to nocd.com and class in eighth grade where you had to learn about music theory?

2:29.0

But really it was just this man who had a piano and he would play like, like, um, um, um, seeing my sweetheart at the train tracks,

2:37.5

you know, that kind of music. I had that guy. I had that exact man in my class. Really? Because

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