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And That's Why We Drink

E480 Clown Bags and Accidental Witchcraft

And That's Why We Drink

Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz | Para Pods

True Crime, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.724.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2026

⏱️ 111 minutes

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It’s Episode 480 and we’re owning our New York Times Bestseller status! Today Em brings us to Michigan for the Allegan County Sheriff’s House & Old Jail Museum and its terrifying mannequins that change themselves. Then Christine brings us a more in depth coverage of a Harry Lacey who she wrote about in A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop. And please don’t take your meds with the watercolor water… and that’s why we drink!Want to listen ad-free? Join our new Certified Yapper tier for $10/month on Patreon! Ad-free episodes starting at E469 at: http://patreon.com/ATWWDPodcast !Catch our bonus Yappy Hour intermissions on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3L28lDw or subscribe on Patreon!___________________Get up to 57% off and a free gift with code DRINK at https://FirstDay.com #sponsoredLet Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster—join at https://RocketMoney.com/DRINK Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with promo code DRINK.Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/DRINK and use code DRINK to save over 40% and claim your free 3-piece towel set.Go to https://zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order.If you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, please don't wait to get help. Go to https://learn.nocd.com/ATTWD and book a free call with their team to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So it took me a long time to realize, but I think a lot sooner than other people in my life who've

0:27.7

also kind of talked to me about this, that OCD was kind of affecting all parts of my life. I didn't

0:33.2

realize like how invasive it was all the way into the true crime. I mean, I don't think this

0:38.1

podcast necessarily would even exist because true crime was one of my earliest interests and it

0:43.2

really did kind of weave into OCD. And fortunately, that ended with like a positive result, right?

0:48.8

But a lot of other things it's been negatively impacted by. And OCD is so much more than the stereotypes you see.

0:55.5

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Go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team to learn more. That's NOCD.com to schedule a free call and learn more. Well, well, well, well, who could it be?

1:56.0

What the cat dragged in? You know, I said that recently to somebody, and I think they were too young to understand the reference, and they were like, what are you talking about? What do you mean, the reference? Isn't it just a saying? Well, just like, I don't think they'd ever heard the saying before. Is it like, oh, no? She was 12. Oh. I was like, is it uncool now? I mean, I guess, but 12 year olds. Okay. He was like, is it uncool now?

2:17.6

I mean, I guess.

2:18.7

Certainly to a 12 year old. They were like, he was like, what the hell are you saying? And I, he's this kid that's always at the dog park. And so when I saw him, I went, oh, look who the cat dragged in. And he was like, we're at a dog park. Yeah, what are you? You're not getting a guy. weird grown-up over there.

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