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The From the home of the co-breakers and the birthplace of modern computing, this is the Bletchley Park podcast.

Welcome to the October 2015 episode of the Bletchley Park podcast, Forgotten Genius.

Bletchley Park is bathed in autumn sunshine as we take you to the opening of a brand new, fascinating exhibition about Gordon Welchman,

Bletchley Park's architect of ultra-intelligence. We'll hear from

Welshman's granddaughter, Jennifer, who flew in specially to be at the launch, and from his

Hutzik's colleague, Jimmy Thursk, who at the age of 101, is one of the last few of his kind.

We'll also hear from the grandson of a man who is involved in co-breaking in both World Wars,

Nigel de Grey.

His grandson Anthony is clearly proud of his roots, and his grandfather was not the only member

of his family who worked at Bletchley Park.

But first, Bletchley Park presents Gordon Carrera.

On the 18th of October, the BBC's security correspondent will give a talk at Bletchley

Park about his new book

which traces the intertwined history of computing and espionage, Intercept, the secret history

of computers and spies. He told the Bletchley Park podcast how a book about technology turned

out to be a book about people.

Now, it's sort of an obvious question to ask how the idea for this book came about because obviously you're steeped in stories of espionage.

But tell me from the beginning how it came to be.

Well, the book's a history of how

computers and spies have, I suppose, interacted over the decades. So it's about how the computer

was to some extent born in the world of espionage at Lechley Park. But in turn, moving on from there,

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