Hey, people of the universe, you're listening the nervous racks.

That's a new intro song.

I mean, you just always off the cuff.

I am very talented.

That's true.

Thank you for being here with me, Dillard. You're welcome. We had a very good talk with

Ryan Leone or is it Ryan Leone? I think it's Leone. Okay. But why I don't know. He corrected us.

He's a good man and he has some great stories. Great stories.

Dude yeah he kind of lived a life that most people including myself would never

understand I had to I already knew who he was and he reached out to me to do the

podcast and I already had seen him before because I watched a lot of these prison YouTube shows and I had seen him before and I was like, oh, this dude's oh this dude's red and he's got a movie in the works and a book

He's smart dude well read he obviously read a lot

I don't know if it was just in prison he had a he's an artist I mean the dude's pretty

looking talented so anyway we got to talking with him and he's a man he's got some

stories he has some crazy energy yeah he had crazy energy but

so do I think to say he's from it's okay he's from Santa Barbara now he lives in the

inland empire and you know he's friends with Johnny Depp he's friends without because a lot of people like me in Hollywood they want to be around the real since we're around so many bullshit fake gangsters and fake it's cool to be around something real. So I think I gravitate towards anything real

because I'm in a land of bullshit.

Does that make sense?

That does make sense.

You're always searching to learn.

Yeah, well, I have beginner's brain, which I think is a good thing. I just want to learn. Yeah, well, I have beginner's brain, which I think is a good thing.

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