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Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

E381. Attention Span is the New Class Divide - Spencer Klavan

Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

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🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Spencer Klavan joins Bridget for a fascinating conversation about why Plato's 2,000-year-old warning about the invention of writing perfectly explains our AI panic, what it's like to invent an entire language for Daily Wire's Pendragon Cycle (and how it made him finally understand Tolkien), and why AI can only reproduce the "outer word" while humans alone possess the "inner word." They discuss how Instagram reels have replaced sitcoms as the shared cultural touchstone for exhausted parents, w...

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0:00.0

I'm with Spencer Clave and everybody welcome to Walkins welcome.

0:03.4

Hi. Thank you for coming. I'm so bad at makeup. I'm trying I'm having to do makeup

0:08.0

tutorials now like like on day tag. Basically I want my and my daughter loves doing makeup but

0:13.0

she's only four but I'm like we're gonna train you nice and get you on payroll.

0:16.8

Useful skills starting out starting my eye on that's awesome. By the time you're 10're going to be doing Mommy's makeup. I was looking at old photos from when I started my podcast, and I used to do like, makeup for lights. And I was like, oh, damn, I did look a lot better when I did that. Make up. Yeah, yeah. I just stopped bothering with it because I was like, it's such a pain in the ass. Yeah, exactly. That's why why we didn't do we didn't even do it for video this this podcast we only did dumpster fire for video and didn't do

0:43.7

audio and then only did walk-ins for audio and not video and somebody from the blaze was like you're

0:49.6

an idiot yeah it's this at this point it didn't used to be this way. Yeah. The audio podcast used to be much more like, I don't know, much more in the market. Yeah, yeah. Which was suited me a lot. I don't understand people watching podcasts, to be honest. Yeah, because usually people are doing other things. I would think, but apparently not or else, like, they are doing other things, but they have their computer running the video in the background or something.

1:12.7

I don't know.

1:13.5

Well, the other thing, like this, I love when words enter the vocabulary that are just so telling about the culture and, like, two screening is like such an amazing phrase that just came up.

1:25.0

This is a thing that people do now.

1:26.4

They can't just, I mean, I notice it myself if I'm not really attached to a movie that I came up. This is a thing that people do now. They can't just, I mean, I notice it myself.

1:28.6

If I'm not really attached to a movie that I'm watching, I'm also checking Twitter.

1:32.5

Yeah.

1:32.8

This was the whole thing that Ben Affleck was saying on Netflix, on Rogan about Netflix.

1:38.3

Exactly.

1:38.7

And also, you see these memes go around.

1:42.4

And it's like when I need to improve my attention span.

1:48.3

And so I just watch a movie.

1:50.4

I'm like, this is so sad.

1:52.2

It's so grim.

1:53.3

And there was that professor who was saying that he couldn't.

1:57.0

When he was doing film studies, the students couldn't even answer the question.

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