E360: No Pilot's License, No Problem: How Marci Veronie Climbed to the Top of Aviation Without Ever Leaving the Ground

Pilot to Pilot

Justin Siems

Aviation, Leisure, Flying, Pilot

4.8 • 997 Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Pilot to Pilot Magazine — Volume 002 is out now. Get yours at pilottopilothq.com/mag

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Marci Veronie is the Senior Vice President of AVEMCO Insurance, and she's one of the most fascinating people in aviation — not because she's a pilot, but because she's spent nearly four decades watching what happens when things go wrong. Landings. Taxiing. Overconfident airline pilots in light sport aircraft. She's seen it all, and she's got the data to back it up.

In this episode, Marci opens up about her wildly unexpected path from a Pittsburgh girl chasing a paralegal certificate to becoming the first non-pilot sales underwriter at AVEMCO — and eventually SVP. She talks about the calls she dreads taking on Monday mornings, what separates a superior pilot from a scary one, and why 60% of pilots are leaving real money on the table every single year.

She also gets candid about being a woman in a male-dominated industry for decades, her work with Women in Aviation International, and what it actually takes to build a 39-year career at one company.

Whether you fly a J-3 Cub or a 737, this episode will change how you think about risk, training, and what it means to truly be a safe pilot.\

Happy Flying,
Justin

Transcript

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0:00.0	Episode 360 of the Pilot to Pilot Podcast takes off now.
0:09.6	Did you know that 11% of accidents happen while taxing?
0:13.6	A Vemco insurance company believes education and awareness make a real difference,
0:17.5	which is why they support safety programs and reward pilots who stay sharp.
0:21.6	Pilot the Pilot podcast listeners can save 5%. Call 888 6354297 or visit Avemco.com slash 4297
0:30.4	for aircraft owners and visit Avemco.com slash 4297-dash non-owner for non-owners today. Premium credits are subject to underwriting guidelines,
0:40.2	including a VEMCO recognized training and memberships and the sources of EMCO insurance
0:44.1	claims data, 2003. Again, thank you so much, VEMCO for being a sponsor. Please help the
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0:53.6	a VEMCO. Aviation, let's talk about progressing as a pilot.
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1:09.0	I can speak personally on this as I have gone from a 152, a 172,
1:14.3	182, a 206, a 310, the caravan, the grand caravan, and most recently the citation latitude.
1:24.6	So I've seen it work for every mission from training, from aerial survey,
1:27.9	to flying freight deep into Mexico and all across North America, and then flying essentially
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1:37.8	turboprops like the iconic King Air and the new Beechcraft Denali, or even their jets like the
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1:48.7	And Textron Aviation won't just put you in the airplane and say good luck.
1:51.5	They guide you through personalized onboarding, pilot mentorship, type specific training, and real
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