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Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

E353. Why Free Speech Is Dying and How to Save It - Greg Lukianoff

Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

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4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Greg Lukianoff returns to the podcast as he and Bridget spotlight the battle for free speech and why it’s dying in many areas of the world. They discuss suing the Trump administration over a shady deportation policy, AI’s potential for tyranny in places like China and Iran, people who are pro-free speech until it’s someone who’s not on their team, the free speech disaster happening in Europe and Canada, why free speech is a problem of comfort, why Greg is funding experiments in AI that defend...

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0:00.0

Okay, I am back with Greg Lukianoff, everybody. Welcome back. I think this is your third time on Walkins

0:06.8

welcome. Am I correct? Yes. It's so great to see here, Bridget. You too. How are you doing?

0:13.3

Busy. We've got a lot going on. It seems that way. You have a very flashy profile in the New York Times today. Congratulations.

0:21.6

Well, thank you. And it's the photo shoot that convinced me I need to start my diet today.

0:27.6

I love those rock bottom photos. We were just actually on vacation and somebody took a picture and my sisters and I were just sharing all of it and we're like,

0:37.8

this is our rock bottom shot.

0:39.8

This is my rock bottom shot.

0:41.8

You're like, this is the moment.

0:44.5

Yeah, no, you look great.

0:45.9

I don't, what, how long has that been in the works?

0:50.2

It's been a couple of weeks and we were pretty nervous about it because we, you know, be honest,

0:55.4

historically haven't gotten very good treatment by the New York Times.

0:58.6

I have lots of, lots of horror stories.

1:01.6

But then when it came out, I was like, okay, this is, I think they're actually being pretty

1:05.7

fair to us.

1:06.9

Do you see, like, a tide turning in that respect?

1:11.8

Well, I guess the kind of the predictable part of it is the fact that we've always been,

1:18.4

fire is painfully consistent when it comes to defending freedom of speech.

1:22.7

We defend it for everybody all the time, no friends or favor, no matter what.

1:26.7

And we've always been like that and been

1:28.5

willing to lose donors over it ever since we are founded. But in this case, because we have a lawsuit

1:34.8

against a Trump administration policy, this is when they decided to give the favorable coverage.

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