All right. I'm with John Spencer, everybody. Thank you for coming on Walkins. Welcome.

Well, thanks for having me, Bridget.

I'm excited to talk to you about a topic that seems to be coming up. It's been important

forever, but really since Ukraine, I've been curious because I just don't know very much about urban warfare and this seems

to be an area of expertise for you. Do you want to explain who you are and just, you know,

how you kind of ended up focusing on urban warfare is kind of your lane, correct?

Sure.

Yes.

Among others, I'm assuming, but this seems to be your primary focus.

And how did that, how did you, how did you find your way here?

It was a, you know, a winding road, let's say.

I joined the Army out of high school and spent 25 years in active duty Army service,

which I don't rely on my experiences, but I'm very proud of those experiences and

to combat deployments to Iraq, where I had plenty of urban warfare.

But I was in this program where I went

to Georgetown to get a master's with a national security focus and then spent two years in the

Pentagon. One of those years, I worked for a four-star general, which is really interesting. He just said,

go look at things that I'm not looking at. And for a year, part of this kind of think

tank group that he set up, we were looking at large cities, mega cities, over 10 million,

and then analyzing could the U.S. military do operations in that environment because all the

global trends were trending towards just urban, right? The world became more urban than rule in 2008,

interestingly. So more people live in urban areas than not in urban areas. Then we had

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