E330. Confronting the Truth About The Trans Movement - Lisa Selin Davis

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🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Bridget sits down with Lisa Selin Davis, author of Tomboy, who confesses to soft-pedaling some truths about the trans movement and activism in that book. Now, she’s working on a new project, unraveling the threads she was nudged to ignore and diving headfirst into the hot-button issues she was once told to dodge. They discuss the youth gender culture war, the absurdity of automatically labeling a tomboy trans, liberal institutions bowing to kids, the haunting tales of detransitioners, and “so...

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0:00.0	I'm with Lisa Salin Davis, everybody. Welcome to Watkins. Welcome. Thank you. Can I say what I,
0:05.2	what you said when I texted you about podcasting? Well, are you going to put it in context?
0:10.5	What's the context? Well, the context was your set on, right. Okay. True. She, yeah. But it was
0:18.5	funny, kind of just out of context. So I texted her and I was like, hey, you want a podcast?
0:24.0	And she says, I have a lot to say about the word retarded.
0:28.7	Because you came to East Side Comedy and you saw Ariel Isaac Norman, very good friend of our show here and good friend of mine. And you saw her, I guess
0:40.1	it's been through many rebrands. It's now lesbian friends. It's now lesbian friends. It was gay enough.
0:45.3	And now it's lesbian friends. And yeah, I did a set about how retarded is a word that some of us.
0:55.8	It was a term of endearment where I came from.
0:58.5	And, well, it was one of those words like, fuck,
1:01.2	where it meant a whole bunch of different things.
1:03.2	Right.
1:03.6	And if you grew up in New England, which I did a lot of the time,
1:07.2	retarded was just a, you know, it was part of the lexicon.
1:12.5	I mean, well, I suppose gay was like that too.
1:16.7	I don't know.
1:17.1	You could use it, you know, you could use it lots of ways and now it's on the list of
1:22.5	verboten things.
1:24.7	And that list is very long now and it includes objective truths which is
1:31.1	like a lot of what I'm dealing with now is that the truth is stigmatized so is that what
1:39.3	inspired you what and so you've written many books at this point. You've written some novels.
1:44.9	I have four we're selling books, yeah. Yeah. But the fifth is going to be, I'm going to sell a lot of
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