All right. And with Khan Carol, everybody, welcome to Walkins. Welcome. Thank you for coming.

Happy to be here. Let's talk about marriage. My favorite subject. What inspired you to write your

book Sex and the Citizen? Sure. It's actually kind of a boring story. I was working for

Senator Mike Lee, Senator from Utah, and he was chair of something called

the Joint Economic Committee, which normally deals with even boring economic massues of gross

domestic product, unemployment rates, etc. But he wanted to take it in a new direction and address

social capital, a kind of idea that was around for a nomad of yours, was popularized by

Robert Putnam in his book, Bowling Alone. So they wanted to really kind of quantify as much as we

could what was social capital, was a growing, falling, what communities had more of it,

what communities had less of it. And so during the portion of that, that you know my job was to take all the research the staff members were

creating and turned it into tweets videos op-eds speeches etc so you know as a conservative

i had always kind of known that there was this large body of research that showed that

marriage has been official,

but I'd never really engaged with it or read it before.

And there was just so much more of it.

And coming from otherwise liberal sources that I had recognized,

it became interested in the subject.

And I wanted to read a history of marriage.

Like where did this institution come from?

How did it evolve?

So I went on Amazon and basically everything I found was either from a very liberal perspective and was not good or the conservative ones I found were laser-like focused on gay marriage,

which is which is not an unimportant issue, but really wasn't relevant until

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