I was a very active, faithful Mormon for most of my life. My ancestry goes back Mormon pretty much as far as you can count people who knew Joseph Smith. The book of Mormon's credibility is really tied directly to Joseph Smith. Was there any clues in his upbringing that he would become this, at best, a prophet and at worst a coal leader? I mean, you could say, right? I would say yes and no. And here's kind of what I mean. Did you know all of this when you were a young Mormon missionary? Oh, no, I knew none of it. And normally did I know none of it. Anytime I heard a rumor about something like this, I was explicitly told that it was a lie. At this time, exploring orthodoxy. Yes. You end up becoming Roman Catholic. Yes. Why not Orthodox? That's a great question.

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Lila Rose Show. Isaac Hess, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much. It's really great to be here. I'm so glad. Welcome in from Arizona. It's great to be by the beach. Arizona is, this is the time of year for Arizona's, right? This is the only good time of year, weather-wise for Arizona. Yeah, I rag on Arizona a bit for those

who know me, the heat is a little much in my opinion, but the weather this time of year is just

perfect. If you're, if you've got the winter blues anywhere else in the country, come to Arizona in

January. I love Arizona. My last experience there, though, was, I think, in the middle of the summer

during the pandemic because my Canadian, one of my best friends whose Canadian was marrying

the love of her life in American, and it could only work for some weird reason in Phoenix,

Arizona. So it was 100 degrees. That was my last memory. But besides that, I've always had a good time when I go to Arizona.

And it was still a great time.

It was just we were indoors the whole time.

Yeah.

If it was only 100, it actually wasn't that bad.

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That's right.

120 is what you guys get up to, right?

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