E270 | Music and Faith with John Martinez
The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown
Sandals Church
4.9 • 799 Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
We’re back for part two of Matthew Stephen Brown’s conversation with Pastor John Martinez of Sandals Church Banning. After a powerful first episode, this debrief continues by turning to your questions — honest, practical, and rooted in everyday faith.
In this episode, Pastor Matthew and Pastor John respond to audience-submitted questions about what it really looks like to live out your faith in today’s culture. From navigating music and entertainment as a Christian, to understanding what “great faith” actually means and how it grows, to discerning the difference between genuine worship and performance, this conversation is thoughtful, biblical, and refreshingly real.
Show notes: Work willingly at whatever you do, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people. Remember that the Lord will give you an inheritance as your reward, and that the Master you are serving is Christ. Colossians 3:23-24 NLT
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown, where we take questions about faith, the Bible, and culture, and give you honest, practical advice you can trust. |
| 0:11.0 | This is a space to ask anything and get real answers for real life. We're glad you're here. Now let's get into today's episode. |
| 0:19.8 | Welcome back to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown. Let's get into today's episode. Welcome back to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown. |
| 0:23.3 | Let's get into today's episode. |
| 0:25.9 | This question is from Gio, from Instagram. |
| 0:28.7 | It says, is it okay as a Christian to listen to non-Christian music such as hip-hop, R&B, and reggaeton, etc. |
| 0:36.1 | Yeah, you can listen to everything but R&B. |
| 0:38.4 | God hates R&B. |
| 0:40.2 | No, I'm kidding. |
| 0:41.2 | I'm totally kidding. |
| 0:43.2 | You know, I think that the more you grow in Christ, the harder it is to listen to secular |
| 0:48.7 | music, it's just the reality because so many of the things they're singing about are things |
| 0:53.0 | that you don't believe in, that you absolutely disagree with. You know, so much of music tends to be about sex, hopelessness, |
| 1:01.1 | suicidal thoughts, behaviors and attitudes, the way that it speaks about women, the way that it speaks |
| 1:07.3 | to people of color, specifically in rap music. Man,, I can't, I can't get behind that. |
| 1:12.8 | That's not me. |
| 1:14.3 | And people, you know, make fun of, I think wrongly. |
| 1:17.8 | So Christian music and Christian artists. |
| 1:19.6 | And I just, I support everything that God-fearing people do. |
| 1:24.7 | And I don't even think it has to be Christian music. |
| 1:26.7 | It just has to be stuff that's positive and not satanic or evil, you know. You just really got to watch. And then for me, I don't know about you. What did you listen to when you were a kid? Do you remember? Well, when I was a kid, my mom raised us in the church and she would only let us listen to music that was like on the wow |
| 1:45.4 | Christian hit okay so what did you listen to contemporary Christian newsboys okay yeah I like the newsboys |
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