Welcome to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown. On this show, Pastor Matt sits down with his friends to answer your questions about life, Jesus, and the Bible. Let's get into the episode.

Well, welcome to The Debrief with Matthew Stephen Brown. And before we jump into this week's question, you've recently got to spend some up close and personal time with John Maxwell.

Yep, the legend.

Yeah.

Just really incredible opportunity.

And so it just begs the question of what is one of the things in your life and leadership right now that you feel like you're still learning?

Yeah.

So, I mean, I didn't know you were going to ask me that question, but I was sharing with the team that you can't see behind the cameras that one of the things I learned from John was to ask questions and to be a great question ask

her. And you and I were actually out to dinner last night with some leaders where we just asked

some questions of the husband and the wife. And the wife answered the question and she said,

we're just learning this. And I said, I just learned this right now. And you and I in real time,

I didn't know that was going to be your answer, but in real time we both went, this would have solved, like save that from so many issues that we've had

if we had thought of it in that way. It was. It was like one of our best leadership moments and it was

so on the fly. So I think one of the things I'm learning right now is I need to, I need to be more concerned about the questions I ask than the answers I have.

And so I feel like as a leader, I feel like I have to have the answers.

And oftentimes what I need to do is lead on my team, lead on people to ask the right questions.

And so to broaden, right, because the church is not a person.

So Jesus, through his spirit, gives gifts to every person. You know,

you and I have been talking about your spiritual gift of discerning spirits. And that's so important,

especially for churches that are really charismatic where the Holy Spirit is such an upfront part of their worship. Someone needs to have the gift of discerning spirits to go, that's the Holy Spirit

and that's the devil. Because both are operating in the church at all times because Satan can't

defeat the church, so he infiltrates it. That's what he does. But just to say that I need to be

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