4 • 24.2K Ratings
🗓️ 24 March 2021
⏱️ 76 minutes
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The Vow on HBO/max is a documentary that follows the stories of people who were intensely involved in the self-improvement organization, NXIVM. Identified as a sex cult, NXIVM is still dealing with charges of sex trafficking and racketeering while its founder, Keith Raniere, sits in jail and some of its highest members wait to be sentenced. Today we are joined by couple Sarah Edmondson and Nippy who met while in NXIVM and are considered to be two of the whistle blowers on the organization. Sarah found herself too deep in the cult - so deep that she was branded as part of a women’s group called DOS which was ultimately the group responsible for sex trafficking. Once she stopped drinking the “koolaid” she was not only able to save herself, but also those around her, and help bring those responsible to justice. Nick and his guests have an intense conversation trying to understand the mindset of someone who joins a cult, how to try to avoid organizations that use manipulation to exploit people, and the understanding of being ashamed of your choices once leaving.
“He made the obvious sound profound with big words that really didn’t mean anything.”
You can get Sarah’s book, Scarred? HERE or on Amazon and you can follow the link below to listen to Sarah & Nippy’s podcast A Little Bit Culty https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/a-little-bit-culty/id1553334816
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0:00.0 | What's going on everybody welcome to another episode of the Vile Files. |
0:21.7 | My name's Nick, how you doing? |
0:25.6 | I wonder if I didn't need to be a cult leader. |
0:27.8 | I don't know what your cult would be though. |
0:34.8 | I don't know. |
0:37.8 | Like the cult for people who like keep tavern at doors open. |
0:40.8 | There you go. |
0:41.8 | And you ask why would I say something so nutty? |
0:43.8 | We'll get to nuts later in this episode. |
0:47.8 | But we have a fantastic episode because if you are fascinated by cults as I think most |
0:55.8 | of us are and or maybe we saw the documentary called the Vile on HBO in the sex cult that |
1:04.8 | was nexium or is nexium. |
1:07.7 | We have two of the stars I guess you call it from the show The Vile, Sarah and her husband |
1:14.6 | Nippy who were very high up in part of nexium and and interacted in new Keith Reneerie who |
1:21.2 | is now in jail for I think life. |
1:24.6 | And we get in talking about cults and their experience in nexium and what it's like to |
1:31.8 | be a cult. |
1:32.8 | How we can avoid joining cults. |
1:34.5 | What's the difference between being a little bit culty versus like a full on cult? |
1:39.7 | Because they're being a little bit culty. |
1:42.4 | Because we you know cult cult cult. |
1:45.0 | I mean short for culture and every company organization likes to have a strong culture |
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