What's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files. What a crazy

week. We're wrapping up the bachelor finale and we have a great show for you to recap all

things bachelor finale a and aFR with the wonderful Zuri Hall is joining us today. Oh my gosh. Thank

you for having me. I'm so excited. So nice to be here. We have the team as well. Chrissy, Amanda,

and Ali before we get into the recap just a quick reminder of the the conversation. Really it's

just breeze after the final rose and tell all because she was you know cut out of both. So we

we got her as a win for us. So I don't know. But the brief was great and be sure to check that out

as well as check out our ass Nick episode. If you're looking for some wonderful relationship advice

and tragic stories about people's lives that we try to solve anything else before we get into the

recap. Chrissy, Ellie, Amanda, no. Well, let's do it. Zuri before we get into the finale, what were

your thoughts and feelings about the season itself? Specifically the show and then we'll talk about

the outside of the show as well. There are two different things right. I was excited for Matt

obviously having someone who was new to the franchise entirely made it interesting to watch in a

new way. It's like, okay, this person hasn't been I don't want to say tainted by about like they're not

in the in the cycle. They're not in the world yet. So I'm curious to know how this guy is going to

react because he's not used to this. So whatever I'm seeing on camera on screen is I'm going to assume

just totally genuine. You know, there's no ulterior motive at play. Sometimes that translated as awkward

but in a way that was also very endearing. And so I enjoyed it. If anything, my biggest sort of

takeaway from this season outside of the obvious and in all of the controversy that swirls around it,

attachment theory. Do you know about attachment theory? Yeah, we talked about it. We've had a

few episodes talking about it. I for whatever reason, all I could think about particularly in moments

of of last night's episode was avoidant dismissive behavior from Matt. And I say that with love as

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