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The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

E207 LGBTQ+ & How The Church Changed Us... | The Debrief Podcast

The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

Sandals Church

Deconstruction, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Faith, Christianity

5781 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Matt Brown has a conversation with two friends who share their journey of identity and how their church family changed them at a deep level.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the debrief podcast with Matt Brown.

0:10.1

The podcast where pastor and author Matt Brown

0:12.7

debriefs your questions about Christianity and current issues shaping our culture.

0:17.3

Thank you for listening and enjoy the show.

0:23.6

Hey guys. Welcome to another episode of the debrief. I am super excited today because we have been talking about this for a long time.

0:29.6

So we have two special guests in the audience today and I just want to prep parents.

0:34.6

We're going to be talking about sexual issues today.

0:36.6

So if you have little ones in the car, I need you to make a decision right now, but we're going to be talking about sexual issues today. So if you have little ones in the

0:37.7

car, I need you to make a decision right now. But we're going to be talking about all things sexual,

0:43.0

specifically LGBTQ plus. And I have two of my good friends at Sandals Church. And I'm going to use

0:48.8

the word gay. And then we're going to use the word same sex attracted. I think that's what

0:52.2

Cindy and I talked about a couple weeks ago in church. But language changes so much. It's, you know, one of my daughters

1:00.7

told me the other day that the word lesbian is offensive. And I was like, okay, I didn't know. So I'm

1:05.3

just trying to, I'm an old man now. So I'm 51 years old. And so I don't know what's offensive or not, but we're going to use the term gay first. And so I'm going to start out with how I met you, Anisa. So I don't know if you

1:18.6

were there at the live episode. Yeah, okay. So we had this live episode for the debrief. I don't even

1:23.5

know what episode it was, but they just let anybody come up and ask a question.

1:29.1

And here comes Anisa with her question.

1:32.1

And I'm going to summarize because I don't remember exactly because I froze.

1:36.1

Absolutely froze.

1:37.9

But you were basically like, I'm gay.

1:40.0

I'm following Jesus.

1:41.2

I'm married to a woman.

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