The I'm Ryan Nidell, host of 15 minutes to freedom, your daily action guide to

getting shit done. Today I have an incredible guest on the show, a man that not only

is a listener, but is someone that is changing the lives of thousands of people, if not even

more from the state of California. I have the esteemed scholar, the psychiatrist,

Ed Kaptarian. Ed, how are you today?

Doing great. Thanks Ryan.

No problem.

I couldn't be more excited to have you.

So I have to ask right out of the shoot.

You've seen some crazy things inside the, I'll say,

treatment facilities of California.

Like you're part of San Quentin or have been as far as the

telepsychiatry agency that you that you own and operate. I know we can't get

into the in-depth things of individual cases and Lord knows I wouldn't want to elicit that. But if there was

one limiting factor that you see more frequently than not that could be addressed at a

high level that could impact the listener.

What would that be?

So are you referring to lessons that I've learned just speaking with inmates and how they apply to life outside of a prison.

Absolutely.

So I mean there's so much there. I don't even know where to start or when this would end, but I'll just be brief about it and say,

you know, over seeing thousands of patients in my life and managing mental health programs and in fact creating and

founding some mental health programs you kind of see from soup to nuts everything

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