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One topic that people have a lot of trouble with on the path, even as they're quite sincere,

is first they catch on that your so-called spiritual

life and your so-called sacral life are the same thing. As long as you still see your

meditations or your church or your beliefs or your Bible or the Gita, the things you do that you call

Sadna as different than your family, then your work, then the different responsibilities

you have in the world, the different things you do in the world, you haven't quote on yet.

Now once you catch on and maybe people have trouble, but they're doing it,

that is the same. There's no difference in your meditation, your mantra, your reading, spiritual

readings, you're traveling places to see holy people, and cooking dinner, taking up the kids

for soccer, going to work, dealing with a client, getting

fired, searching for a new job, exactly the same. They're all exactly the same. And until you

see them exactly the same, I'm sorry to tell you, you're not going anywhere. You may have some

high experience in meditation or visiting holy places and holy lands.

Wonderful.

But you're coming back, you're coming back to your daily life.

And so if your daily life is not as spiritual as what you call spiritual, then it's not spiritual.

So that's the foundation of right understanding is that it's all the same

and you have to learn to treat it the same and use it the same. We've been through that many

times. That's where surrender and acceptance and letting go come from. I mean of course when

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