Welcome back to the Annie Graham Journey. My guest today is Joe Owen. He's an

any gram eight who's an attorney in Richmond, Virginia. I've been teaching in

Virginia for a while, gotten to know Joe. he's close to my age, softened some by life experience, and

yet he's innate all the way through, married to Lori Lori who's a one.

They're a fine couple for us to learn from

about life and experience and change by chance

and intentional change.

Hope you enjoy our conversation.

And one more thing.

April 10th is the release date for the path between us.

You can pre-order on Amazon or at IV press.

I'm so excited because we have a special deal if you order five copies or more and

email the receipt to

pb u at life in the Trinity Ministry.com

we're going to have a drawing and you can run a 45 minute Scott

conversation with me and I would love it and I think you would too.

Welcome to the Annie Graham Journey.

My guest today is Joe Owen.

I think we've known each other for three years maybe, three or four, and you're what I hope

for in terms of walking wisdom for young AIDS.

So I don't want to limit the podcast

to the second half of your life

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