E198 - A Stable, Post-Unipolar World w/ Trita Parsi and Aslı Bâli

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8 • 705 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Danny and Derek are joined by Trita Parsi, executive vice president of the Quincy Institute, and Aslı Bâli, professor of law at Yale Law School and nonresident fellow at Quincy, to talk about the Institute’s Better Order Project, a collaboration between over 130 people from more than 40 countries creating proposals for a stable, multipolar world. They talk about the vision of moving beyond the current “rules-based” order in favor of an inclusive, global one rooted in international law, the major variables around which the project’s proposals and reforms are organized, how to address great powers prioritizing short-term, political thinking, the atmosphere in the worlds of think tanks, nonprofits, and elite law as we begin Trump 2.0, how these communities have been reckoning with the US policy on Gaza, and more. Subscribe now for much more content and an ad-free experience! Join our Discord (subscribers get more channels)! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to American Prestige. To listen ad-free, you can subscribe at Americanprostagepod.com. Find the link in our show notes.
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0:35.4	Head to vanta.com slash Spotify to learn more. Hello, Prestige heads, and welcome to. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade, Derek Davidson, and we're very excited to welcome to podcast today,
1:13.0	Trita Parsley and Asla Bali.
1:17.0	Trita is the executive vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and the director of the Better Order Project, which we're talking about today.
1:21.4	Osla is a professor of law at Yale Law School and also a non-resident fellow at Quincy,
1:25.9	like myself.
1:27.0	Thank you both for joining us.
1:29.1	Thank you so much for having us.
1:31.1	So I think the first question is just what is the Better Order Project,
1:35.4	what is the goal of it, and what are the findings of it,
1:37.7	and then we can get into talking about the details.
1:39.6	But for people who have never heard of this,
1:41.4	and if you're interested, you could go to better order project.org,
1:44.6	and there's a nice summary and full disclosure. I signed the report. So before we get into that,
1:52.8	though, what is it? Where did it come about? What are its major findings? Thanks so much, Derek and Daniel,
1:59.7	for having us and getting us an opportunity to talk about these
2:02.5	issues.
2:03.5	So about a year and a half ago at the Quincy Institute, we started this project.
2:07.2	And essentially, what it was was a realization that the path that the Biden administration
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