Hi there, I'm Jay Cumpfrey and this is the award-winning high-performance podcast.

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Once more, it's time for myself and Professor Damien Hughes to unlock the minds of another guest.

Today, this awaits you.

Football or sports are also game of luck, of course, inside post, outside post, on the bar.

Apparently given, yes or no, red card, yes or no.

These little things can be the fate of a manager, the fate of a player, or the fate of a director,

if they're success or if they're failure.

And at the other end of the spectrum is Cristiano Ronaldo, who like you, has gone on to have a career of true longevity.

What are your memories of sharing a dressing room in a club with him?

The dressing room that he shared with me, of course, it's always been about him.

And this determination and the way that he conducted himself.

I think a lot of people have, let's say, maybe called a different opinion about him,

but I found him really in a dressing room funny, the way that he took another step for me and I had it, it's been amazing.

It's shit, things are happening, you need to fire someone, things are not going well.

There's a crisis, there's something opening, or European level, or it's something with a new media deal.

And at certain points, it's not a drag, it's fucking hard.

What a pleasure it was to speak to this person.

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