E193: Is Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Un-Christian? w/Fr Ambrose
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🗓️ 4 March 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
With President Trump’s latest executive order cracking down on illegal immigration, many Christians are asking: What would Jesus do? Where do we draw the line between compassion and protecting our nation and families?
Today, I sit down with Fr. Ambrose Criste, a Norbertine priest and theologian, to break down the Catholic perspective on this heated issue. We explore the U.S. Bishops’ response, Pope Francis’ stance, and J.D. Vance’s bold critique of the Bishops for profiting from illegal immigration.
This is a conversation you don’t want to miss—because the answer isn’t as black and white as some would have you believe. Let’s talk about it.
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00:00 - intro
02:39 - Fr Ambrose’s Intellectual Background
04:34 - What is the Christian view of deportation?
06:48 - The problem with the word ‘deportation’
11:16 - Covenant Eyes
12:20 - Another factor to consider:
15:06 - Most people in this country…
23:20 - CrowdHealth
24:19 - USCCB Statement
26:03 - Not the church’s concern
28:30 - We’re playing clean up
30:42 - Incentivizing illegal immigration
32:26 - EveryLife
33:30 - JD Vance’s statements
37:19 - The church has to be a safe place
38:52 - Pope Francis
41:25 - Obedience to Pope:
43:47 - Ordo Amoris
44:45 - Good Samaritan
51:34 - Trump deporting less than Biden
53:54 - Ed Feser on Immigration
58:22 - Lent
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We're trying to play cleanup. The problem is not today. The problem was 40 years ago. |
| 0:05.0 | The church in her mission is duty bound to care for the poor. |
| 0:09.0 | It's not the church's concern whether that person is legal or illegal. |
| 0:13.0 | Pope Francis wrote a letter to the U.S. Bishops on this topic. |
| 0:16.0 | I don't want to be a pope-splainer. |
| 0:18.0 | I have some problems with this statement from the Holy Father. |
| 0:20.0 | I take issue |
| 0:21.0 | with the word deportation in the classic Christian sense. Deportation has a very specific meaning. |
| 0:26.5 | It's about... Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Lila Rose show. Today we're deep diving the question |
| 0:32.3 | of immigration. As you may know, there have been executive orders from the Trump administration |
| 0:36.9 | declaring more mass |
| 0:38.6 | deportations, a policy that's been much more tough on the border, tough on immigration. |
| 0:43.7 | In fact, border crossings are down 94% right now year over year from last year under the Biden |
| 0:49.3 | administration. |
| 0:50.3 | So the border is getting more secure in that sense, but there are a lot of humanitarian concerns |
| 0:54.4 | about deportations, a lot of questions. We're going to actually explore this from the Christian |
| 0:58.6 | perspective of what and how should the Christian think when it comes to immigration, deportations, |
| 1:04.2 | and so many other questions about our immigration policy. We will also be discussing the exchange, |
| 1:09.5 | effectively, that Vice President J.D. Vance, a Catholic |
| 1:13.3 | convert, had with Pope Francis. And I'm very excited to have on a podcast OG that you guys |
| 1:19.0 | may be familiar with and that I know many of you love, Father Ambrose Christ. Father |
| 1:23.1 | Ambrose Christ of the Evermode Institute, as well of St. Michael's Abbey, who is a fantastic |
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