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The Lila Rose Show

E185: She Forgave Her Family's Murderers w/Immaculee Ilibagiza

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Lila Rose

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4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Today, I have the privilege of speaking with Immaculée Ilibagiza, an extraordinary witness to faith and resilience. She survived the 1994 Rwandan Genocide by hiding in a tiny bathroom for three months with seven other women. When she emerged, she faced the devastating loss of her family and friends, who had all been murdered. Immaculée shares her incredible journey of faith, hope, and forgiveness, even as she came face to face with those responsible for her family's deaths. Her story is both heartbreaking and inspiring, and I’m deeply honored to have this conversation with her. I hope it moves you as much as it did me.

Transcript

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I lived in Rwanda during the genocide, and I belonged to the tribe that was being killed.

0:04.0

They have given order to kill everyone of our tribe.

0:06.0

How did you stay in a three by four foot bathroom, eight women?

0:10.0

Eight people.

0:11.0

We sat on top of each other.

0:12.0

When I went in the bathroom, I was 115 pounds, but when I came out, I was 65 pounds.

0:17.0

Three months later, when I came out, a million people was killed. And among them,

0:22.2

my parents, my mom was killed, my dad, my two brothers, everybody was killed. And I remember

0:27.1

reading the Bible and I reached this part. Forgive them. They don't know what they do. Everything

0:31.7

changed in that moment. Literally.

0:35.8

Immaculate, thank you so much for joining the podcast.

0:38.8

Thank you so much for having me.

0:40.3

I'm really happy to be here.

0:41.6

It's such an honor and privilege to sit down with you.

0:44.3

And I think I read your book, Left to Tell 15 years ago when it was around first coming out,

0:51.3

and I was incredibly inspired and moved.

0:55.0

And to get to sit down with you is such an honor and privilege.

0:59.0

So thank you for making the time for this and telling your story.

1:03.0

Thank you.

1:04.0

Thank you.

1:05.0

Yeah, I know I remember when I wrote the book, I was really surprised by the how it is, it touched people.

1:12.0

The outcome was very shocking because I guess when you go through things in your heart,

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