E177: What Exorcists on YouTube Get Wrong w/Dr. Sean Tobin
The Lila Rose Show
Lila Rose
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🗓️ 3 January 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Summary
Exorcism interviews have recently exploded in popularity, racking up millions of views on YouTube and social media. But is this focus on demons and their influence on humans a healthy exploration—or could it be playing into Satan's plans, granting him undue attention and power while paralyzing us with fear and superstition?
Today, I'm joined by Dr. Sean Tobin, a psychologist trusted by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles to evaluate whether individuals should be referred to an exorcist. With years of experience working with those facing demonic oppression and possession, Dr. Tobin shares fresh perspectives on what God might be accomplishing in these situations and offers little-known approaches for dealing with stubborn cases.
He also addresses a troubling trend: fear and powerlessness among Christians—something completely contrary to God’s design. Dr. Tobin reminds us of the need to reject both fear and demonic forces, reclaiming the Spirit of power, love, and self-control that God has given us (2 Timothy 1:7). His insights are sure to inspire and empower you in the spiritual battles we face.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:05:17 - The devil can hide behind mental illness
00:06:39 - Examples of paranormal activity at work
00:07:28 - Good Ranchers
00:08:47 - God allows demonic activity for a purpose
00:10:19 - The devil always operates within our psychology
00:17:39 - Defining our terms
00:18:42 - EveryLife
00:20:30 - The devil wants us to respond
00:24:15 - The positive role of fear
00:29:19 - Not just getting out of Egypt
00:31:25 - Seven Weeks Coffee
00:33:46 - Quantity vs Quality of faith
00:34:43 - Superstitious faith vs relationship with Jesus
00:40:08 - Prayer
00:41:44 - Physical War vs Spiritual War
00:43:27 - Pregnancy and Passivity
00:45:25 - We expect a great power struggle
00:46:36 - Clinical examples
01:00:34 - Sometimes it takes years of exorcisms, sometimes 1 session
01:07:10 - Thomas Merton and the Spirituality of Satan
01:15:59 - Closing in prayer
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I've experienced a lot of paranormal things in the office from pictures shifting around to |
| 0:04.6 | person speaking in languages that they don't know. I'm less concerned with how a demon came to |
| 0:10.3 | be present in their life and more concerned with why does it have permission to remain. |
| 0:14.2 | This is of course also begs the question of should there be so many podcasts about exorcism? |
| 0:18.5 | Yeah, exactly. It's so hyped up. |
| 0:20.6 | My idea of deliverance, it's not just about removing us from the enemy's power, getting |
| 0:26.7 | God's children out of Egypt. |
| 0:28.3 | It's also about getting Egypt out of God's children. |
| 0:30.9 | But not stopping there, it's to bring us into the promised land, which is life in Christ. |
| 0:38.3 | Sean Tobin, welcome back to the podcast. |
| 0:40.3 | Thank you. |
| 0:41.3 | Good to be here. |
| 0:42.3 | Great to see you again. |
| 0:43.3 | You too. |
| 0:44.3 | And just talk to Father Boniface. |
| 0:45.3 | That's right. |
| 0:46.3 | Now our mutual friend. |
| 0:47.3 | There you go. |
| 0:48.3 | He's amazing. |
| 0:49.3 | Yeah, so you get involved in exorcisms. |
| 0:53.3 | Yeah, well, not the exorcism itself, but in the process of one |
| 0:58.6 | receiving an exorcism, evaluating people to kind of screen for mental health issues that |
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