E17: Anti-Zionism in Israel, part 1
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🗓️ 16 December 2018
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Edited by Louise Barry, from Audio Interference: http://interferencearchive.org/category/publications/audio/
Thanks to Max Blumenthal (https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal)for permission to use audio from video clips which are here: https://youtu.be/MwjKa9v6OAY and https://vimeo.com/19444809
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| 0:00.0 | In 1948, following the end of the British mandate in Palestine, the state of Israel, as a Jewish state, was declared by David Ben-Gurian, executive head of the World Zionist Organization in what is referred to by Palestinians as the Nakhba, or catastrophe. |
| 0:15.0 | Conflict in the region continues to this day. But despite the prevalence of nationalism, small groups within Israel have opposed |
| 0:22.1 | Zionism and colonialism and instead fought for another episode of the working class history podcast. My name is Matt |
| 0:57.2 | and today is the first of a two-par on the anti-Zionist movement in Israel with a particular focus on |
| 1:03.9 | the revolutionary socialist group Mutsben. A small group originating in a split from the Israeli |
| 1:09.7 | Communist Party in 1962, |
| 1:12.1 | Matspen punched far above their weight, gaining a profile which made them infamous in Israel |
| 1:16.7 | for their uncompromising line on the occupied territories and the Zionist project as a whole. |
| 1:22.9 | Over the next couple of episodes, we're going to hear from some Matspen activists |
| 1:26.9 | and talk about their experiences of radical political organising inside Israel. |
| 1:32.3 | First up, we hear from one of Matspen's founders, Moshimacher, to hear about his part in this fascinating chapter of working class history. |
| 1:40.3 | Before we start talking about Metspen, I was hoping you could maybe explain to some of our listeners what Zionism is. |
| 1:48.0 | It's really very simple because Zionism is both a project and an ideology. |
| 1:55.0 | So as an ideology, it is the claim that Jews all over the world are not a religious denomination, |
| 2:08.6 | but a nation. |
| 2:11.2 | And the second part of it is that the real homeland of this nation is the land of Israel, which is roughly what |
| 2:22.3 | used to be called Palestine, but may be defined as a little bit larger than Palestine as |
| 2:31.3 | it was under the British Monday. But the land of Israel, the ancient homeland of the Jewish nation. |
| 2:38.1 | And so just clearly, because the British mandate was the part of Palestine, |
| 2:43.0 | a part of the Middle East that was run by the British. |
| 2:45.9 | Well, I can go into this because the history is a bit complicated, |
| 2:49.8 | but to put it very simply, |
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