I think this is one of the hardest topics I've ever tried to think hard about.

Making me cry, Catherine.

I know.

So, like, so sad.

This is a pretty awkward question to ask.

Is there such a thing as overpopulation?

Do people know that babies have the capacity to bring healing to anxious, troubled teenagers, or grieving adult men?

Catherine Picolic, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you.

I'm an admirer of yours, so thanks for making it out here.

Absolutely.

And congrats on your new book.

Thank you.

You've got it here in studio.

Thank you.

The woman quietly defying the birth dearth.

That's right.

And you are single-handedly in part doing that.

It's true. First, for folks who don't know, we'll get into your personal story here in a moment,

but tell me a little bit about your background. Yeah. So I teach at Catholic University,

the Catholic University of America, which is in Washington, D.C. And I was trained as an economist.

So my formal trainings in economics, before that I worked a little bit in public health.

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