If I ask you right now to do an experiment, try to stop feeling every emotion that you're having. Some muscles, if not all of your muscles, had to constrict. And if you did that for an extended period of time, we would call that stress. The avoidance of emotion drives a huge amount of our behavior. How many choices did you make not to feel like a failure? How many choices did you make to chase happiness? How many choices did you make to avoid discomfort?

The emotions that we don't want to feel we invite in the exact way we're trying not to feel them.

But that's actually a really intelligent design, because then it keeps on giving us a chance to see ourselves as whole again.

We have three brains. And if you want transformation in your life, you need to address all three. And so what that means in a practical level is something to the effect of, there's a lot of ways to work with the voice in the head. There is a time and a place as you do the work where the repetitive negative self-talk goes away. Yet when we have it, we say, oh, we need that to be productive. Like, I would just sit on the

couch and drink beer if it wasn't for that internal abuse. But it frees up so much energy

not to have it.

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Know Thyself. Our guest today is a renowned business executive coach and facilitator of people returning

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Joe Hudson.

Good to be here.

Thanks for being here.

Yeah, pleasure. Pleasure to have you you i want to start with a couple of frameworks that i've heard you speak to that i think we'll

set the stage for our conversation today cool subtractive development um and this idea that so much uh

of the illusion of like growing in life is the accumulation of more and more and more ideas

more material things so I would love for you to speak to this this positioning this kind of

internal orientation of development and growth actually coming from subtracting I've never put in those terms before, but I appreciate them.

What I would say is that there is a, you know, there's a Zen tradition that says if a hand is always like this,

or if a hand is always like this, both are cripple. And what I see in our society is there's a lot of this which is what do I do how do I get there

what's the next step for me to take but there's not a lot of receiving and so to me there's places

where trying is really useful and there's places where trying is really not useful and so it's really learning how to be able to do both.

So what I notice is typically if I say subtracting is a great thing, then people will say,

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