So wait a second, you guys, I saw that you were at a CO2 conference or a TPG conference,

you're at some banking conference, SACs.

Brad and I were both at the CO2 summit.

CO2, CO2 is a large investor, is it a hedge fund private equity?

They're a late sage fund. It's a big late sage fund.

Some, it's a really big word. Was it a summit or was it more like a meeting?

Well, it's like a two-day conference in Santa Barbara.

Oh, nice.

They've done a number of years in a row now.

Last year, Brad and I went and we met with SPF.

They'll ever tell you that SPF story.

No, let's go.

Who's got crazy hair right now?

You or SPF? Give us a quick take that hat off for a second.

Take that Monclaro off for a second.

Let's get aside by side.

Oh my god, SACs is using no product.

It's not that bad.

You're starting to look like the emperor, like Senator Palpatine from Star Wars.

I mean, people are having a field day with this crazy hair.

But what was the vibe?

If you said there was a vibe two years ago, the vibe was crypto-mania.

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