Hey folks, welcome to the 13th Dark Horse Podcast live stream. I am here with Dr. Heather

Hying as always and we are ready to chat about some very interesting topics this week.

Do we have any business that needs to be covered up front?

Not that I remember right now.

Yes, I don't recall any business either. We are slightly thrown. We are seeing a brand

new kind of error on our live stream where the facts are apparently happening and we

cannot see them for some reason no matter how we link up to the channel. But for the

moment, it doesn't seem to be interfering with our ability to broadcast. So we're going

to go as usual and hope that that clears up as normal.

All right. So where should we start?

Why don't you start with what you had in mind?

All right. Let us talk about the fact that for many weeks since the beginning of this

crisis, the question of herd immunity has been central to many people's thinking. And

I'm watching something unfold over social media where the consensus around the accessibility

of herd immunity as a solution to the COVID-19 crisis seems to be evaporating. And I think

it's about time that it did.

Just say that again, what is evaporating?

The consensus that herd immunity is actually the road out of this crisis for us is evaporating.

I think it's evaporating around several different concepts. One, the information that once

sick with SARS-CoV-2, one is immune going forward has not emerged. It's still probable that

that is the case, but we really don't know that it is the case. And therefore gambling

on herd immunity is a mistake because it's quite possible that people who have had this

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