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About a year ago, I took an Uber from the Atlanta airport to my place just east of downtown.

With normal traffic, it's about 15 minutes.

On this day, my driver was an older black guy.

He helped me get my rolling bag into the trunk of his black Chevy Malibu, and I jumped

in the back seat.

It's funny to me how some drivers are total talkers and some don't make a peep during your

whole ride.

I've always had this theory that there's a small percentage of drivers who don't do it for the money,

they do it for the talking.

And this was one of those guys, a total talker.

I'm an introvert, so I usually prefer the non-talkers, unless they've got good stories.

Old black guys who grew up in Atlanta usually have good stories.

This ride had potential.

The conversation started pretty much like all other Atlanta conversations.

Traffic.

He talked about how much he hates traffic and how it stresses him out and how it just generally sucks. Then he starts going off on the people who built the interstates back in the 1960s.

There are two north-south interstates that run through Georgia, I-75 and I-85, and they both converge in downtown Atlanta.

This driver starts talking about how city officials originally planned to elevate one highway above the other,

so as to keep both highways moving smoothly once they met in downtown Atlanta.

But he then starts going off, talking about how the idiots in charge went cheap.

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