Hello everybody and welcome back to the No Bad Dogs podcast with me

Tom Davis America's canine educator the podcast where we love live and of course work with dogs

Today I have a friend and a guest on the show. His name is

Pete Fisher. Pete Fisher is a liaison and also somebody who represents Dogtra who makes e-callers.

And it's a partnership that Doggra and I have done for 2020

to work together to do the best we can to educate

and to help people out with the remote collar process and education.

And so we're going to talk to Pete about his involvement going back to the early 60s of the remote collar

training and the history of the remote collar and talk about

shot show that we're doing here in a couple of weeks in Las Vegas and so welcome Pete to the

show. Oh. Good man. Sorry about the confusion on the the time. I so thought you were two hours

behind me. Just no I'm just one and that's you know it's hard to figure out Tom because of all the work I do for Dogtra, you know, and they're two hours behind me.

Yeah, right. Right now, it's 720 out there, and a lot of people don't realize that, you know, that I'm

not sitting in an office out there in California.

But anyway, it'll work.

So let's just roll right into it, Pete.

And I want you to just tell everybody on the podcast who you are, what you do,

how long you've been doing it it and we'll go from there.

Sure I can do that Tom I am a jack of all trades master of none so to speak

my background is and I'm older I'm older than I probably sound or look how is I don't

good or not but I'm high school educated Tom I live up here in Minnesota Albany, Minnesota. I did

some construction work right out of high school and then it was fortunate Tom to

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