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E. Jean Carroll on Being 'One Woman vs. a President'

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 656 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Journalist E. Jean Carroll has won two multimillion-dollar judgments against President Trump for sexual abuse and defamation. Her new memoir, “Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President,” is a behind-the-scenes look at what it’s like to sue a U.S. President: the toll it took, and how support and some dark humor helped carry her through. We talk to Carroll about her experiences and hear reflections from MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin about the significance of Carroll’s victory against a president who has otherwise avoided legal consequences for his actions. Guests: E. Jean Carroll, journalist; author of the long-running advice column "Ask E. Jean"; author, "Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President" Lisa Rubin, legal correspondent, MSNBC; host of MSNBC's "Can They Do That?" on Youtube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah. From KQED. From KQED in San Francisco, I'm Mina Kim. Coming up on forum, President Trump yesterday lost his appeal of the multi-million dollar verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll. Carol successfully sued the president twice in the last two years. And in a new memoir, she gives a behind-the-scenes look at those legal battles,

1:28.8

with personal, darkly funny reflections, despite the toll the trials took. Who's afraid of Donald Trump,

1:35.4

writes MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin? After two trials where Carol won more than $88 million

1:41.4

combined, it's not E. Jean Carroll. Carol's new memoir is called

1:45.6

Not My Type, and she joins us next.

1:54.1

Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. She's not my type. That's what President Trump

1:59.6

infamously told a reporter after writer E. Gene

2:02.5

Carroll came forward with her story that Trump had sexually assaulted her in a Bergdorf-Gudman

2:07.3

dressing room in 1996. Still, two Manhattan juries found Trump liable for sexually abusing and

2:14.0

defaming Carol in 2023 and for defaming her again after the verdict in 2024,

2:19.9

ultimately awarding her a combined nearly $90 million in damages. Trump is appealing those

2:25.7

verdicts. Carol is now opening up with her characteristic humor and sharp eye about what went on

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