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As always, and I have such a fabulous guest today. I am so excited to be talking about this line,

but more importantly, just learning about her career because she is definitely a veteran in the

beauty industry and founder of the career Jackson cosmetics as well as now her new project as

co-founder of Kind Science with Ellen DeGeneres. So welcome to the show Victoria. I'm so honored to host you.

Thank you. It's an honor and a pleasure to be here. So thank you very much.

Oh yeah, it's the honor is mine. I would love to get started by learning more about your career

and just your journey in the beauty space. I know that like I said, you've definitely created

beautiful lines before and I would love for you to tell us all about that whole experience and

how everything led to Kind Science and just the whole, you know, the whole story.

Well, it's a big story. It's a long story and I'll try to make it a fun story because it's been

sort of an extraordinary career for me and I started, you know, if you look at some of my early

infomercials where I've been known as the Queen of the Infomercial, infomercials just started

in the late 80s and I have the first line that came out in an infomercial that, you know,

everybody said, you really can't sell products on television, you know, women need to see them and

touch them and feel them and I was like, no, I think there's a way that you can do it and I was

familiar with that way because I started my career as a makeup artist and before I really even

had the talent as a makeup artist, which was a learned skill for me, I just wasn't inherently the

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