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Resilience Development in Action

E.225 Inside the Firehouse: Burnout, Betrayal, and Building Real Leadership

Resilience Development in Action

Steve Bisson

Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education, Psychology, Counseling, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Honest, Substance Use, Social Sciences, Science

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Send us a text Burnout doesn’t just come from the calls—it grows in the silence after, inside a culture that either catches you or drops you. We sit down with Renae, a former firefighter-paramedic who now coaches first responders on burnout recovery and nervous system regulation, to unpack how leadership betrayal, union politics, and the loss of seasoned mentors quietly shape morale, retention, and the quality of care on scene. Renae walks us through two starkly different departments: one wi...

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0:00.0

Welcome to Resilience Development and Action, where strength meets strategy and courage to help you move forward.

0:07.3

Each week, your host, Steve Bisson, a therapist with over two decades of experience in the first responder community,

0:13.4

brings you powerful conversations about resilience, growth, and healing through trauma and grief.

0:18.9

Through authentic interviews, expert discussions, and real-world

0:22.2

experiences, we dive deep into the heart of human resilience. We explore crucial topics like trauma

0:28.7

recovery, grief processing, stress management, and emotional well-being. This is Resilience

0:34.9

Development and Action with Steve Bisson.

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1:23.5

Well, hi, everyone, and welcome to episode 225.

1:26.9

If you haven't listened to episode 224 yet, it was Jonathan Kemp.

1:44.6

We talked about great stuff, especially with first responders, coaching, and I hope you go listen to that. But with Episode 225, I have someone that I've known for a while, Renee Mansfield. She's sitting right next to me. This is our first time in the studio. So if I look nervous, I am. And I'm going to stop looking at the camera because that makes it even more weird because I want to look at my guess. So Renee, welcome

1:48.5

to resilience development and action. Thank you. Hello.

1:51.9

Well, it's good to have you here and be my first guest in this environment. We're both

1:56.7

a little fish out of water here, but I really appreciate you coming on. I know we had a little bit of trouble getting recorded at the beginning of August, I want to say. Yes. Yeah. I'm actually glad that it got canceled because this is really, as much as it's kind of weird being on the cameras, it's kind of nice being the first one. It's nice. Well, I'm happy that you're the

2:18.8

first one because I've known you for a while. I think the work you do is exceptional, the stuff that

2:23.7

you're going to be doing. And, you know, right before the pre-interview, so to speak, we were talking

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