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Hello, my friend, and welcome to their She Rose podcast. This is your host, Jamie C.

And we are talking all things, course creation and all the reasons why we need an actual step-by-step

plan because I just had an amazing human being

reached out to me and she's like, okay, what the hell? I have 21,000 followers. My branding is

absolutely epic. And I just launched my my course spent so much money in the recording process

all of these things and guess what I got 10 people that signed up that's it rest is crickets

and so I love I love when we get to actually kind of break this down into why followers do not equate to sales.

It just doesn't.

And I think this such, it's such a vastly important conversation because I can't tell you how many times I've had conversations where people are waiting until they have the followers.

They're waiting until they have the following, right, to be able to effectively launch

or create or offer or any digital product, right?

So here's what I want you to remember is that followers do not equate to sales.

Because if you don't have an actual step-by-step process to get people from a trust building

process into an actual sales process, it doesn't matter how many followers you have. And I really

hope at some point, like for those

who are listening, who have like 100 followers, 200 followers, 50 followers, 60 followers, it could be

3,000 followers and you feel like it's not enough. This is one of the most important conversations

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